You probably would enjoy as much as I did
this little story from Mr. Smith.
As a note;
If you still in the church please educate
the staffs into using the proper two-way comm cycle,
as reported in the below HCOBs.
Here is the story:
On day MR. Smith was asked to join Staff.
He politely responded with a ‘NO’.
Of course the recruiter couldn’t let go…
and so insisted and asked ‘WHY’?
MR. Smith, a well-trained auditor,
looked at the guy and with good TR’s answered him:
“You are not going to make me list a question
that does not read on me,
and you are NOT going to give me an item, either,
from a non reading listing question.”
Now, think of all the times you were told you were out-ethics
because you did not donate more,
or you did not contribute or agreed
or you were asked why you were in that situation,
or what did you do to pull it in…
This is, today standard in the Church of $cientology.
Knowing the tech
NOTHING PRODUCES AS MUCH CASE UPSET
AS A WRONG LIST ITEM OR A WRONG LIST.
… wrong list reactions.
(…) he blows up or goes into apathy. Or blows. Or attacks the auditor.
ALL of the more violent or bad reactions on the part of the pc
come from out-lists.
Nothing else produces such a sharp deterioration in a case or even illness.
Therefore, when one gets a sharp change in a case
(like lowered tone, violence, blows, (…) long notes from pcs, self-C/Sing, etc., etc.),
the C/S SUSPECTS AN OUT-LIST.
This outness can occur in regular sessions (…)
It can occur in “coffee shop” (out-of-session auditing of someone)
or (…) poorly trained or untrained staff members
or even in life.”
L. Ron Hubbard
HCOB 20 April 1972 Issue II C/S Series 78
PRODUCT PURPOSE AND WHY
AND W/C ERROR CORRECTION
“DON’T USE A LISTING QUESTION IN TWO-WAY COMM.”
By a “listing question” is meant any question
which directly or indirectly calls for items in the pc’s answer.
Use of “who,” “what,” “which,”
instantly turns a two-way comm into a listing question.
If you use a listing question accidentally in two-way comm,
you can get the same bad reactions from a pc
that you would get on a wrongly done list.
The reason for pc upsets in two-way comm is hidden,
as it is not apparently a listing process,
rarely gets the correction a bad list would get.
Asking “who” or “what” or “which” during a two-way comm
after the main question can also turn it into a listing and nulling process.
Two-way comm questions MUST be limited
to feelings, reactions, significances.
They must NEVER ask for terminals or locations.
EXAMPLE: “Who upset you?” in two-way comm
causes the pc to give items.
This is a LIST.
“What are you upset about?” does the same thing.
“Which town were you happiest in?”
is also a LISTING question,
NOT a two-way comm question.
Any of these result in the pc giving items.
They are not then nulled or correctly indicated.
The pc can get VERY upset just
as he would with a wrong list.
Yet the session is not a “listing session”
so never gets corrected.
EXAMPLE: “How are you doing lately?”
is an example of a correct two-way comm question.
It gets off charge and gets no list items.
“Are you better these days than you used to be?”
“How have you been since the last session?”
“What happened” is different than
“What illness,” “What person,” “What town,”
which are listing questions.
When other things fail to locate the upset of a pc
look into two-way comm processes in the folder
and treat them as L&N processes
where the pc has answered with items.
The relief is magical.
L. RON HUBBARD
HCO BULLETIN OF 17 MARCH 1974
TWO- WAY COMM, USING WRONG QUESTIONS
the precise technology of a process
used to clarify data with another for the other.
It is not chatter.
It is governed by the rules of auditing.
It is used by supervisors to clear up blocks to a person’s progress in study,
on post, in life or in auditing. It is governed by the communication cycle as
discovered in Scn. (HCOB 19 Jun 71 111)
is an inquiry of the pc as to what
is going on and an invitation to him to look at it,
and that is all. (SH Spec 43, 6108C22)
a two-way cycle of communication would work as follows:
Joe, having originated a communication, and having completed it,
may then wait for Bill to originate a communication to Joe,
thus completing the remainder of the two-way cycle of communication.
Thus we get the normal cycle of a communication
between two terminals. (Dn 55!, p. 84)
the cycle is Cause, Distance, Effect,
with Effect then becoming Cause
and communicating across a distance to the original Source,
which is now Effect and this we call a two-way communication.
(Dn 55!, p. 64) Abbr. 2WC or TWC.)
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