One cannot learn about oneself unless one is free.

Sharing a word from my favorite teacher.

WIMBLEDON, LONDON 2ND PUBLIC TALK 16TH MARCH 1969

‘THOUGHT BREEDS FEAR’

by J. Krishnamurti

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♥ “…freedom and discipline go together, not that one must be disciplined in order to be free. We are using the word discipline not in the accepted, traditional sense, which is to conform, imitate, suppress, follow a set pattern, but rather the root meaning of that word itself, which is to learn.
So learning and freedom go together.
♥ by J. Krishnamurti ♥

For most of us freedom is an idea but not an actuality.

When we talk about freedom or think about it, we want to be free outwardly,
to do what we like, to travel, to be free to express ourselves in different ways, free to think what we like.

The outward expression of freedom seems to be extraordinarily important, especially in countries where there is tyranny, dictatorship; and in those
countries where outward freedom is possible one seeks more and more pleasure, more and more enjoyment, freedom to possess.

And in the search for freedom, if one is at all serious, there is not only the outward expression of that freedom, which must, it seems to me, come from psychological freedom, inward freedom.

And if we are to enquire deeply into what freedom implies, freedom to be inwardly, completely and totally free – which then expresses itself outwardly in society, in relationship – then we must ask, it seems to me, whether the human mind, heavily conditioned as it is, can ever be free at all.

Or must it always live and function within the frontiers of its own conditioning, and therefore there is no freedom at all?

One sees that the mind, verbally understanding that there is no freedom here on this earth, inwardly or outwardly, one then begins to invent freedom in another world, liberation, moksha, heaven and so on.

So if we could put aside all theoretical, ideological, concepts of freedom and actually enquire whether our minds, yours and mine, can ever be free, freedom from dependence, psychologically, inwardly, freedom from fear, anxiety, the innumerable problems, both the conscious as well as the deeper layers of consciousness.

Whether there can be complete psychological freedom, so that the human mind, being free from all problems can come upon something which is not of time, which is not put together by thought, or as an escape from the actual realities of daily existence?

If we could this morning go into this question whether the human mind, yours and mine, can ever be inwardly, psychologically, totally free.

Because without that freedom it is not possible to see what is truth, to see if there is a reality not invented by fear, not shaped by the society or the culture in which we live, not as an escape from the daily monotony, with its boredom,
loneliness, despair and anxiety.

Because unless one is free you can’t explore, you can’t investigate, you can’t examine.

To look into it, there needs not only freedom but the discipline that is necessary to observe.

So freedom and discipline go together, not that one must be disciplined in order to be free. We are using the word discipline not in the accepted, traditional sense, which is to conform, imitate, suppress, follow a set pattern, but rather the root meaning of that word itself, which is to learn.
So learning and freedom go together.

Learning bringing its own discipline, not imposed by the mind in order to achieve a certain result. So those two things are necessary essentially.

The act of learning and freedom.

One cannot learn about oneself unless one is free.

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And to learn about oneself one must observe,

not according to any pattern, formula, or concept

but actually observe as one is.

And that observation, that perception, that seeing, brings about its own
discipline, its own learning in which there is no conformity, imitation, suppression, control whatsoever.

So freedom and learning are always together.

And there is a great deal of beauty in that.

Our minds are conditioned – that is an obvious fact – conditioned by the culture or society, influenced by various impressions, strains, stresses, relationships, economic, social, climatic, educational, religious conformity, sanctions and so on.
Our minds are trained to accept fear and escape, if we can, from that fear, never being able to resolve, totally and completely, the whole nature and structure of fear.

So our first question is: whether the mind, so heavily burdened, can resolve completely, not only its conditioning, but also its fears?

Because it is the fear that makes us accept conditioning.

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And if we may this morning – please do not merely hear a lot of words and ideas – which are really of no value at all – but through the act of listening, observing your own states of mind, then we can together both verbally and non-verbally, enquire whether the mind can ever be free from fear – not accepting fear, not escaping from it, not saying “I must develop courage, resistance”, but actually be fully aware of the fear in which one is trapped.

Because unless one is free from this quality of fear one cannot see very clearly, feel very clearly, deeply; and obviously, when there is fear there is no love.

J. KRISHNAMURTI

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